Tuesday, August 10, 2010


After reading the continuing posts from L M about how Science of Mind is heresey and that Im doomed for living by its principals I now feel the need to share with my readers what SOM says about itself. And as far as LM repaeting that I think I am a God he is just twisting my words into something that is only a partial truth as to what I did say.Myself and SOM followers do believe that ALL living forms are an incarnation of God's Spirit and that we ALL use the ONE MIND of God in out expression as human beings on earth. LM tries tomake it sound like I am an ego driven person who is trying to deceive others inot believing I am God and that anything I say is TRUTH. I will say that anything I believe true is MT TRUTH and mine only. That doesnt mean I feell you or anyone else should have to follow my truth to find salvation and peace of mind. LM seems intent on arguing anything I print so as to justify his beliefs in his own mind. I know I could easily just delete his comments but I choose to let him speak his words and I encourge him to continue to live by his faitha nd truth as long as it brings him peace of mind and satisfaction.DO I agree with LM's beliefs? NO NO NO I dont. I studied the religious dogmas along with many other writings since I am not one sighted enough to beleiive that the Bible is the Only book written that has merit to it. While LM in his own words said anything written by anyone who does not believe the way he does is not worth the paper it is printed on. Dont take my word for that just look at one of his comments under my entry THE LARGER LOVES. Ifyou have a moment take a look at he poem and see what you think about it. Does it have any merit? I truly believe it does but according to LM it doesnt because it came from a SOM reader and contribitor.How anybody can say this poem doesnt have merit is way beyond me. I just dont get it. Also Id like to say that LM just keeps on saying I believe I or we can do ANYTHING we want, well thats taking my words out of context.Of course we can do what we want to do. But that doesnt mean I do things that hurt other people, atleast not on purpose.By living to my own personal standards that I have developed over the years by reading SOM, the BIble, and many many other teachings I strive to accept everybody as they are without condemnation(DO I judge others as LM is quick to point out? Yes I do but I dont condemn them for their beliefs and I never tell them they are WRONG in their beliefs and as long as they are not hurting anyone else I have no problem with the way they are living their life.Another thing Id like to clear up is that even tho I do ascribe to SOM this blog is not intended to bring anyone to accept this teaching.Maybe I have described my blog in the wrong words I dunno.My only reason is that I want to share my philosophy with Anyone who is looking for ways to enhance their spiritua growth.Im not trying to convert anybody to anything!! Just sharing because in the past I have heard from people who have told me they were able to use some of my writings to help them find inner peace and contentment. And for me that is reason enough to continue. As Ralph Waldo Emerson once said and I paraphrase--"To know that even one life has breathed easier because you wer here is to have succeeded." In one of LM's comments he mentioned that I had almost caused a friend of his to go down the wrong path. I think I know who he is talking about and all I did was offer to answer any questions she had as to my philosophy. She emailed me a couple of tiems and I answered with sincerity and truth but after the 2nd email she never wrote again. So therefore I just removed her name from my address book and never wrote her again. But if she ever does change her mind and gets past the "help" LM has given her and wants to know more about me all she has to do is write.Now if I was trying to convert people do you think I would have just dropped it that quick?But one reason I feel for this lady is that I knkow the "religion" she is a part of does make her feel guilty because she told me as much.And personally I feel any religion or any truth that teaches any kind of fear or wrath or condemnation isnt worth the paper it is written on to borrow a phrase from my friend LM. Any way with all that having been said I would say to anyone who feels the desire to see what Science fo Mind is all about is to just go to their web page and check it out for yourself.Again I dont see how anyone can find fault with a way f life that teaches love is in all and is all.Now I am posting SOM's What We Believe so maybe it can clear up exactly what it is.

We believe in God, The Living Spirit Almighty; one, indestructable, Absolute, and Self-Existent Cause
This One manifest Itself in and through all creation, but is not absorbed by Its creation. The manifest universe is the Body of God; it is a logical and necessary outcome of definite Self-knowingness of God

We believe in the individualization of the Spirit in Us, and that all people are individualizations of the One Spirit.
We believe in eternality, the immortality, and the continuity of the individual Sou, Forever and ever expanding.
We believe that heaven is within us, and that we experience it to the degree that we become conscious ot it.

We believe the ultimate goal of Life itself is to be a complete Freedom from all discord of every nature, and that this goal is sure to be attained by all.

We believe in the Unity of all life and that the Highest God is Personal to all who feel this indwelling Presence.

We believe in the direct revelation of Truth through our intuitive and Spiritual Nature, and that anyone may become a revealer of truth who lives in close contact with the indwelling God.

We believe that the Universal Spirit, which is God, operates through a Universal Mind which is the law of God; and that we are surrounded by this creative mind which receives the direct impress of our thoughts and acts upon it.
We believe in the healing of the sick throught his power of mind
We believe in the control of conditions through the power of this Mind
We believe in Eternal Goodness, the eternal loving-kindness; and the Eternal Givingness of life to all
We believe in our own soul, our own spirit, and our own destiny;
For we understand that the life of All is God


Anonymous said...

Thank you, carpron. This is first real blog about SOM, and it is informative. We are going to disagree about a lot of things because one of us embraces Christ as Lord and the other doesn't. You are free to believe what you chose. I have said that before, and all I've written have been gentle even if you took it otherwise.

I won't revisit much of it, no need. Kudos for posting my perspective. about my friend, she said she was going to write you, but I hope she stays a thousand miles away from you. The guilt you talked about was the result of her own sins. It was Spirit conviction of wrong doing. It wasn't because of me. In your world, you won't accept that.

I still see contradictions, cap. You said basically, "me in me is god." i understand you believe you are an inseparatable part of a force called god, and don't think you are the surpreme god, just one of the lesser gods that make up the whole. I never thought otherwise, it's just that you equate yourself as equal to god, and it isn't true.
You spin, too. I never said that anyone who doesn't believe exactly like me is wrong. Christians disagree about Biblical things. What I said was in context to false religion in general. And you know why I have posted here. It's not to make myself feel good about my own beliefs, cap. It is to give others what I believe to be the true course, and to caution a friend or two.

I close by asking you to use wisdom and logic. Everyone cannot be right, cap. Your truth, if true, would apply to all. There is one God, one Creator, One Lord, One Savior. you advocate many different gods and differnt ways to god. That is pure heresy as stated previously.

God is a God of love as you suppose, but he is also a God of wrath that judges wickedness. We must honor his definition of wicknedness and not make up our own. There is only one truth, capron, and i hope you discover the wonder of His real love and security one finds in submission to God through Christ. The Bible says that fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Fortunatley he doesn't leave us there, but takes us to much better places and teaches us to love properly.

You dont fear God. that is your problem, but you are indeed wanting to influence other people in spite of what you say. you write about how you've helped others and they have turned to you for guidance. you are a promoter of SOM, and it is a deceptive and hollow philosphy. cap, you can help people feel better about themselves or their situation, but in the end, you are leading them away from the only one who can save them eternally, Jesus Christ. That's a fact, cap. How valuable will your comfort be when that person stands before God, and jesus says, "I never knew him?"
May the Lord be kind to you and reveal himself in a real and personal way. LM

Breath-e said...

I'm with Cap...god is in each of us. I will add the Buddha is in each of us. Why would I fear myself? How silly. This all makes me smile. Thank you.

captron52 said...

LM Im sorry if I have misunderstood any thing you have said. It is quite apparent that we are polar opposites in our beliefs and thats ok too.If you are sincerely happy living with a God who gets angry vindictive and will punish souls for eternity unless He judges them as a believer then you go with that. As for me Im quite happy with "my" personal God who remains loving kind and gentle and doesnt pick and choose a few select individuals to spread the "only truth" there is and then allows the rest of us to suffer unless we walk the straight and narrow. Now to me and its just my opinion that is one Hell(excuse the pun) of a God. Take care LM and I will try my best not to lead anyone to "HELL" with my blog.

Hi Sarah. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. I agree wholeheartedly with you my friend.

Anonymous said...

It's a mystery how your god can find pleasure in rapists, murderers, liars, and various assorted evil types. What does that say about you?Your choice of words to describe your god is very elegant, but pretty sounding words are deceptive and leaves one at loss end of trail. Good luck, cap.

chris said...

your doing nothing here but turning people away from Christianity. With each comment I hope and pray it's your last, but you keep returning. Look, I don't know you, but I'm willing to bet your a pretty good person. If you weren't you wouldn't take the time to warn others of the dangers you perceive. Of course I disagree with you completely, and I can't find any logic in your arguments, but I admire passion. However, after trading jabs with you via the comments section, I never want to enter a church again!!! Is that your intent? I don't think it is. LM, if we stand before God on judgement day - and we both know that is what Christianity teaches - how will you explain that to God? your comments have repulsed me, and I imagine I'm not alone. Of course you can tell yourself that your just speaking the truth, but the fact remains you have turned many away from Christ. If Christianity is anything like what I have seen from you count me out!!

Anonymous said...

ha! you're funny, Chis. To be clear, you comments miss the mark of intimidation and bounce off the truth before they strike. You failed to penetrate your target, and I will add you to my personal list of people to pray for. You operate just like far left spin masters with questionable agendas. You want to frame me for your lack of faith and disobedience to God, and your spin is nothing more than a joke. You won't go back to church, and all for reasons before I blogged here. It's a joke, and you know it. You think you're pretty clever, but should think again.

If you are repulsed, it is only because you hate the gospel of Jesus Christ, and you don't want to be confronted by it. This isn't a new tactic, and you are not unique. Thank you for the hit, though. Jesus said that I would be blessed when someone falsely accuses. Thank you twice. Besides that if the gospel didn't upset sinners, it wouldn't be effective. It is defamed by unbelievers because they don't love Christ evidenced by failure to obey him. This has been going on for centuries now, and you are just one of the small parts of a large body who reject the gospel.

i do not represent myself, but the gospel of Christ, and the truth does repulse those like yourself as you said. You represent yourself and are falsely comforted. When we stand before God, I'm confident that in spite of my personal failures, Christ will say, "He's with me." I hope it turns out that way for you, too, but in meantime, your attempt to frame me is very transparent. Best wishes to ya. LM -BTW, everything is presented with love and gentleness. If you read it otherwise, its because of your wrong perception.

Anonymous said...

To LM - Son, others appreciate your strong defense of the gospel and the role Jesus plays as our Savior. You should not be dismayed at such comments above. Truth is consistently twisted by those who reject Christ. Salavation only happens when the Holy Spirit moves on a person for revelation of Christ as Lord, and faith is imparted by God for the ability to believe. However, it is vitally important that we plant the seed. Some of it falls on rocky ground and never takes root. In some cases, it falls on fertile ground and produces a great harvest. That is all you can do. You have made a solid case for Christ written in the love of God, howbeit misconstrued by others because they are blinded to the truth. The Lord will have the final word. Our best strategy now is through prayer on behalf of those who don't know Christ. Their minds are closed even though they boast of open mindedness.

Thank you for the good influence you have been with my niece. I believe she is going to stay the course now. She acts like a different person.

Don't be a stranger.

God bless you. Paul

chris said...

Man, your really out there aren't you!!! Wow!!!

captron52 said...

well Chris I agree but seems like LM wil only accept tht the bible is ALL there is thatis valuable.To me he and others like him are investing an entire life built on someone else's writings.They can call me a sinner or whatever else they want to label me and it will never lead me back into the darkness! I lived in darkness for a long time but now I go by the verse which I bleive is Romans 12:12 : Be ye not conformed to this world but be renewed by the transforming of your mind." Sure hope I got that one verse right cause I kkow if I didnt my friend LM will jump back on me pretty quick.

captron52 said...

Hi Paul As you know I dont agree with your beliefs but I do thank you for stopping by and leaving your comment.

Chris Ledgerwood said...

Yeah, he probably will! Life must be sweet when you have all the answers, and God's total support, at the expense of all humanity of course!

captron52 said...

for the anonymous commenter who didnt see how my God could find pleasure in rapists and bad people in general. Well well I didnt say that in the first place but if you are right your God is also my God dont you believe there is only 1 god then that god you talk of is yours also!

Anonymous said...

What?? You must be smoking some strong stuff! You say there is no right or wrong, thus rapists are just doing what they see as right. According to you they are not to be judged because nobody can judge another. Non sensical at best. Maybe you aren'[t thinking it through before you draw conclusions. Your god is yourself and the "force" that is a "thing" you call love. Although he wants to be, your god is not my God at all, thank you. You can call me DS for Down South, but I'm not going to waste my time with you about this. I stopped by because of what I was hearing about, and was curious. Now I see it for myself.

captron52 said...

Hey DS thanks for acusing me of smoking something. Thats a new one but as they say sticks and stones! And just to clear up something I never said "bad" people should not be judged that is what the legal system is for I loath some of the things people do to each other and would never condone such acts. I'm not sure how the whole "I think anything goes" got started but its just not right.
Maybe my words just got misunderstood. Any way thanks for stopping by and I sincerely wish for yu and yours the very best.